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By Tom Martiniano

Lana is correct. There is nothing to fear except fear itself.  

I learned, over the past several days, very exciting news that there is an actual large movement afoot. 

Dave, hang on tight to your rods.  Public Scientologists are silently gathering in groups. They have small groups of 4 or 5 Scientologists (all in good standing) who are discussing what is going on with the Church and what to do about it.  These groups are like cells, they are separately together. In other words Bob knows 4 people who want reform and Sally is one of them, but Sally knows 4 others who want reform and so on. 

This sort of thing needs to be encouraged amongst Scientologists in good standing. 

The “movement” needs to build and the cells need to become aware of one another because at the right time, solidarity amongst a significant group of Scientologists -- not “apostates” -- will greatly influence the courts or the California Attorney General or the IRS to act. 

Or, if a general director or trustee of one or more of CST, RTC, or CSI, grow a pair, and want to lead a reform action, then the same significant backing.

We need to help the movement along. We need to get them to grow and become aware of one another and we can help make this can happen in several ways:

 1.       Contact your friends who are on the fence to find a group who want Church reform and join up that group.

2.    Do contact your local Church and ask them how much longer they are going to put up with shrinking orgs and no delivery.

3.    Start a campaign in the field that “Public Want Reform in the Church of Scientology”.

4.     Send emails to your friends who are still in, regarding getting reform in on the Church.

We do the above while we also carry out our mission to set up delivery centers and deliver Scientology in bulk.

Let me know what you think.

 

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Tony DePhillips
+1 # Tony DePhillips 2013-05-27 01:28
Great message Tom.
I think you and Lana and whoever else are on to something...
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Nickname
0 # Nickname 2013-05-27 03:41
#2 above "Do contact your local Church and ask them how much longer they are going to put up with shrinking orgs and no delivery" is a good one. Let them know about other Idle Orgs, so they realize it is not "their downstat." Let them know public is protesting Co$ violations of policy, not Scientology itself.
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Espiritu
+1 # Espiritu 2013-05-27 03:47
I agree. Think about it. What can the Church of Scientology do to a dedicated Scientologist for demanding an end to the insane money motivation and concentration on MEST? Refuse to deliver auditing and auditor training??
News Flash.....They are already doing that!!!
Miscavige has shot his wad and is out of ammunition.
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Just Me
+3 # Just Me 2013-05-27 06:52
Would any of you guys really go back to the Church of Scientology? Would you subject yourselves to the Church's controls? Their pricing schedules? Seriously? That seems completely counter to everything Independent Scientologists have fought for. The effort it would take to "fix" the Co$ seems far greater than that required to simply do Scientology independently.
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Tom M
0 # Tom M 2013-05-27 08:59
Just me: No one is talking about going back to C of S. Re-read #4 of my posting above.

ML Tom
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KFrancis
+1 # KFrancis 2013-05-27 09:02
Just Me….I would but only if control, pricing and many other issues were under complete overhaul.

Personally I am not for walking away and forfeiting all of the assets (money and buildings) that we donated for over the last 30 years. Those assets should be repurposed to fund the recovery.
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KFrancis
0 # KFrancis 2013-05-27 09:17
Just Me….Remember, Independent Scientology only had to come about because the church(DM)failed miserable to do its job. Independent Scientology then could be considered a default position given that the church gave us no other choice.
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Jim Logan
+5 # Jim Logan 2013-05-27 10:10
Just Me,
My view is this: the game is Scientology. That to me is delivery of the technology, in a manner that is in line with the protocols and disciplines that were fought for over decades.

The CofS presently is a 3D off the rails. It acts as a Collective Identity, a "group bank". The difficulty in dealing with this collective, is that you aren't dealing with individuals. So you get the same sort of "think". Dealing with individuals, fostering individual viewpoints, you can free up from this "mutualization".

So called "independent" Scientology appears to me to be individuals, freeing up from the "collective".

Having done so, it seems rational to me, that a number of those individuals, those independent of the collective, group identity, would then be more able to direct attention to those Scientologists that are in the mess of mushed mis-identification with a collective, and free them up too.

The Collective Identity, the present CofS under the "chief" David Miscavige, and the "alternate" chiefs of all sorts of the robotic, "we are one", group bank, is NOT any kind of Ideal. It's an ABERRATION.

As a Scientologist, I have the tools to address aberration. So, of course I'm going to seek ways to get them applied and sort out that funky collective.

I do it as an independent Scientologist, working with a group of ethical individuals that are acting three feet behind the head of that Group Bank, applying the Usual and moving on up on this whole affair. While of course fostering individuality.

It's ALL of a piece Just Me. It's ALL Scientology.
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Chris Mann
+2 # Chris Mann 2013-05-28 18:11
There's still a lot of good people in.
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Jim Logan
+2 # Jim Logan 2013-05-27 10:19
Tom,
Thank you for a great post and a rekindling of purpose for others.

I was looking over the Corporate dox for CST and LRH clearly states in those Trust Instruments that the beneficiaries of the legacy are much more than just DM and the Collective Identity or only Scientologists in "good standing".

DM's ploy to alienate beings from the benefits of the Trust, by declaring them and expelling them, while it may appear to disenfranchise, doesn't necessarily in a carte blanche deny them the standing to call "foul" and raise the cry of "unclean hands" refusing others the right to practice their chosen religious philosophy.

So, added to the voices you mention, are those who still want to practice, and are being denied their own benefit of the Trust.

All in all, quite a voice I'd say. And now, in the small groups, adding up, mounting an affirmative action that is undeniable.

F'in A!!!
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Tony DePhillips
0 # Tony DePhillips 2013-05-27 11:08
I wouldn't. I didn't get that is what they were advocating.
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Tony DePhillips
0 # Tony DePhillips 2013-05-27 11:13
I think asking for reform is a short route to SP declare and ejection. On the other hand if they did reform some things it might make it better for those still left in that cult.
It is possible that if dm left and someone relatively saner took over that the COS could be a kinder gentler church. If it was delivering auditing it would be helping people. Personally I think I am done with "churches". But churches do serve some purposes her on planet Earth.
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SKM
+1 # SKM 2013-05-27 13:05
Even though, it's still good to encourage such a movement IMO.

Kind regards,
SKM
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Tony DePhillips
0 # Tony DePhillips 2013-05-28 09:38
I agree SKM.
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KFrancis
+1 # KFrancis 2013-05-27 08:32
I support the idea of a possible reformation. It may look an impossible and exhausting endeavor at this point but the situation could change fast. The structure is still basically in place and the funds exist to finance a recovery.

Get rid of DM and hold a press conference openly stating that the church had completely lost its way. Give anyone who has money on account their funds back if they ask for it-no questions asked. Declare a blanket amnesty and cancelation off all SP declares that where ever issued under DM. Then, get on with delivery without delay.

In the end only winning students and PCs (at reasonable donation rates) can be evidence that Scientology is reforming itself.
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Ingrid Smith
+1 # Ingrid Smith 2013-05-27 12:40
This is exciting-it would be interesting to know how many cells there are.We need to keep appealing to whatever sentience is there.One way too is addressing it on solo.
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indie8million
0 # indie8million 2013-11-30 23:57
I would love to know how many too. I've said this before but it would be great to have, just like the Indy 500, an "under-the-radar 1,000." People can use their nick names and join that list. Maybe that will give an accurate idea of how many people are ACTUALLY out.
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Bernie Wimbush
0 # Bernie Wimbush 2013-05-27 17:52
Bravo! This is thwe sort of thing that will reform the church. But that won't stop the Independant movement. We have a choice. And we can be demanding on management. And if we rejoin, we can leave. Shame DM doesn't issue"Declare" certs for us Independants to hang on walls and shout, 'So bloody what!'
But I would like to see the church brought back into line and reform.
I wonder what would happen if Tom C had a word in DM's ear about reform?
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Vertsurblanc
0 # Vertsurblanc 2013-05-27 19:29
Reforming the church would be an objective AFTER removing DM.

Does that open a door for a handling?

Absolutely.

From there, given a benign group of sane individuals at the top to roll out the reform, it would be relatively easy.

In the meantime I think the cells you speak of are truly happening. I know of many.

Talk to your colleagues and explore their views and form new cells. Keep doing this over and over and grow the network of cells.

Each area of cells will have its own critical mass that once achieved will make talking to your local church practical. To do so earlier may feel avante-guard but is based upon a wek power base.

Grow the number of cells until your local power base is significant. Kept doing this.

Paralleled to this there will be groups that are interested in delivery and that is excellent and that too should grow. Cells feed the groups.

Eventually the primary objective of "remove miscavige" can be strategized.

IMO
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Tom M
+2 # Tom M 2013-05-28 00:35
Make no mistake, Scientology in the C of S is dead. It is gone. It is not fixable. It is much easier to erase it and start all over.
Picture a computer with Windows Vista. After two years of patching this poor operating system and trying to get it to behave, it turns out easier to just erase it and install a new Operating System, Windows 7. Same with the C of S. It just has too much False Data.
We are the new Windows 7.
What I am trying to achieve with this post is reform on what is going on now in the name of Scientology. We want DM gone. We want the rest of those senior evil-intended "executives" such as Starkey and Leserve, GONE. Let the mest and new buildings rot. It's just mest. We need to save thetans from anymore abuse. Then, once DM is gone and the rest are gone we will put it back together ***out here***. This is the only way it is going to be done.
So to all of you reading this blog and this posting, please start the ball rolling. Tell your friends who are noticing the off-sourceness in the Church to demand that it be handled and now. No one can be declared for that. It is per policy. we can start this new civilization now!
ML Tom
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Tony DePhillips
0 # Tony DePhillips 2013-05-28 19:56
You are a man of action Tom. I'm gald you are saying this. Action and not dim thoughts will help end the suppression.
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indie8million
0 # indie8million 2013-12-01 00:00
I hate to say it, Tom, but yes, they can be declared for that.

To complain means that they have been looking. What have they been looking at? The internet, or talking to their friends about what's on the internet.

THAT is a declarable offense today. I've seen it happen. Pitiful.
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Nickname
+2 # Nickname 2013-05-28 01:59
If the church once again were a group of interested individuals offering auditing and training, focused on actually enabling an individual to improve his own life, on his own terms, by his own volition; his own home, his own business, his own relations, and in short, to THAT individual's happiness, all at a reasonable cost affordable by average income, with fair compensation to the staff on a free market basis, then sure, I'd consider walking in, walking out, walking in, walking out - until I was convinced there were no impediments to either! IMO, the problem with current leadership should be handled as "an internal matter of religious discipline." (Throw him in the hole and the key in the Pacific.)
Machiavelli was paid to report his observations of existing motivations in that time and place, not to explain them, nor to pass judgement, nor repair them (that would have been his employer's job). Time and again, I observe that in the vast preponderance, reason is man's method. This is overhelmingly true. Man lives and prospers in a civilization with established mores and laws, based on reason. Yet there are instances, rare though these may be on averages, when reason fails. This has long been part of life. In the political sphere, the sphere which deals with people and populations, when reason fails, force prevails. Some in pursuit of their own win-lose constructions of life, skip the "reason" part of that entirely as part of their standard operating basis, and just get on with the force. "You give me what I want, now!" is their statement, and it is called "criminal" in virtually every society known to man. Criminality is motivated by hatred, jealousy, greed, and, really, the inability to reason. Thus, "force" develops a bad name. Indeed, it is sad, to see reason fail. But criminality cannot be allowed to prevail. Force can be used without hatred, as a necessary means to stop criminality, and reestablish reason. Reason dictates a fair exchange. The principle of "fair exchange" is sometimes bent a tiny bit around the edges, an occasional finger on the scale in this competitive game, a bit of "crying wolf". And reason is sometimes bent a bit around the edges - we do not always use this perfectly. But as Gods and Idols, Kings and Queens and civilizations come and go, this principle of fair exchange remains predominant, as it reflects man's inherent sense of right and wrong, and the basic goodness of man.
It is interesting that IQ tests do not, that I know of, measure goodness. It is goodness, after all, which is the heart and soul of Man.
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